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state. and then you got the deviations between rasmussen consistently and some of the other, whether it's quinnipiac or the other ones. that's all we got, though. and we have to talk about them, i guess. i take all of them with such a huge grain of salt. >> well, and joe, there's reason for all of us to take them with a bigger grain of salt than we used to in the past for this reason. it's becoming harder and harder to poll because response rates are down. >> recording. i hang up immediately. they're trying to give me a cruise. do you ever pick up the phone and it's -- and i go no, captain. i don't want to go. >> there are two different questions on the table, joe. one is the accuracy of telephone polling. it's getting harder and harder to do. most pollsters think we're going to move to online. but the second is the exit polls. >> i remember how downtrodden bush was in the afternoon. john kerry -- they were toasting mr. president in boston. >> this is where some of the participation rate questions also come into play. these are in person interviews. people with different views, if they
on the gwu poll today, right? and we'll get rasmussen -- >> i didn't see gw. i saw a "washington post" abc poll showed two points among likely voters nationally. >> in was two on gwu, too. politico was two points. rasmussen and gallup at 5 and rasmussen at 2. >> polls it show obama up 11 in swing states. that sounds high to me. but in any case, obama's ahead, romney has to change something. he has a chance to do it. >> all right, john harwood, thank you. >> today is the start of the fourth quarter. and joining us is teach stanley, chief economist for peerpont securities. the lead story is how trade is slowing around the world. all of europe's problems getting exported to the rest of the world. what do you think this means just in terms of the fourth quarter and maybe a look into next year? >> good morning, becky. well, i think right now the u.s. economy is really slow in part because of what you guys were just talking about, the election. i think a lot of businesses have gone to the sidelines and they're waiting to see as you all discuss, we have a huge choice to be made. and businesses do
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